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how does a stock 395xp compare to a ported ms460?

Discussion in 'Chainsawz' started by ncvarmint, Nov 19, 2013.

  1. ncvarmint

    ncvarmint New Member

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    I am thinking about getting a new 395xp after we close on our new house and I have a ms460 that was ported by brad snelling. My main question is how do the two compare in power with up to a 28" bar. I really just want a 95cc saw.. I would more than likely get it ported later on.
    thanks
     
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  2. WoodChuck'r

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    I'd guess that a ported 460 would keep up with or beat a 395 in cutting speed with a 28" bar on it in 28" wood. It's a pretty solid guess, but still only a guess really.


    Ain't nothing wrong in buying a nice 395 with xtra pee. Ain't nothing wrong with porting one either.


    If yer question was will yer ported 460 be able to cut 28" wood with a 28" bar I'd say that it won't have to cut it - it'll laugh at it. ;)


    But don't stop there - get yoself a nice 395'r wit xtra pee and have dat pig worked over a l'il bit! Might as well keep spreadin' the love! :rock2:
     
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  3. Eccentric

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    If you're only cutting up to 28" wood, then I'd strongly suggest you get a 390XP instead of the 395XP. The 395XP really shines over the smaller saws when getting into the bigger wood. There's at least a couple pounds difference between the two saws, and the 390XP will still run the ✖✖✖✖ out of a 28" bar. Get that sucker ported (which you could almost pay for with the difference between the price difference 390 and 395).

    Also look at the Jonsered 2188. That's a 390XP in better lookin' clothing. We have a Jonsered dealer on this board that'll sell you a new, ported 2188 for less than the list price for a stock 395XP. Another well known/respected modder here could probably cut you a similar deal. Gotta talk to folks to see what they can do for you. Something to consider....

    Between the ported 460 and a stock 395XP...................well that depends on the size of the wood yer cutting. Those are two VERY different saws, intended to handle different cutting jobs. In smaller wood the 460 will hand it to the bigger stock saws. Once the wood starts getting to 28" and beyond, the 395XP will gain ground. It also will gain some chain speed if you run an 8 pin rim.

    A bone stock 390XP/2188 is somewhat underwhelming in a 'race'...........but they wake up quite a bit with just a muffler mod. Get them ported by one of the guys who knows what he's doing, and they really wake up. A ported 395XP is a monster as well. Ported, it'll gain some serious muscle.................but will still be a big heavy saw. You really need to decide what you're going to be doing with the saw....
     
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  4. Hinerman

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    mdavlee Well-Known Member

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    A ported 460 will be as fast as a stock 395 with a 28" bar for the most part.
     
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  7. Adirondackstihl

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    A 395 weighs about 600lbs more than a 460
     
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  8. jacob j.

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  9. WoodChuck'r

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    And to add to JJ's comment.....



    It's tough to beat the snot of a 394, especially one that's been ported. :yup:
     
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  10. Hedgerow

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  11. WoodChuck'r

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    This racing cant you speak of, does it go faster than a regular cant....??
     
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  12. trx250r180

    trx250r180 The Junk Peddler

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    i lol'd to these comments :thumbsup:
     
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  13. thomas1

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    Teeth in a jar? Sounds like date night at Scott's house.
     
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  14. Hedgerow

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    Yes... 40% faster to be exact... :coffee:
    Man I like coffee....
    It makes me go faster...
    40% faster or so...
     
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  15. Adirondackstihl

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    Thanks for making Pepsi fly out muh nose :pepsi:
     
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  16. Hedgerow

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    Where is bucket smeller anyway???
    Coon season???
    Date night at the assisted living center???
    What???
     
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  17. nk14zp

    nk14zp Well-Known Member

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    Seeing how I have a saw mill how do I get in on making racing cants go faster?
     
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  18. srcarr52

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    Make them from sneller wood I guess.
     
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  19. thomas1

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    I see what you did there. It made me giggle.
     
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  20. Termitebuffet

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    But if it's a can't ....how can it ?
     
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  21. ncvarmint

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    thanks for all the replys guys,
    I can't buy a 395 unless i sell some saws. Dad wants to buy my 12mm bottom with 10mm top 044 ported and rebuilt by mastermind. I was just wanting to have a bigger saw in my shed and i hardly ever cut anything over 32" wide. But i am still debating what to do.
    trevor
     
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  22. Eccentric

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    +1

    Sell Dad the snellerized 460. Keep the mooberized 044. Buy a bigger saw (Aaron suggests a 390XP/2188) fer fun and bigger wood.:thumbsup:

    Oh and I'm disappointed in all you hardcore Dolmar nuts. Nobody's told him to sell the Stihls, ferget the Husky's, and get a 7900/7910. Y'all are slipping.:D
     
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  23. ncvarmint

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    now that ain't a bad idea.
     
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  24. Termitebuffet

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    Ncvarmit , I got a 2095 Johnny red very similar to a 395 you can run if you're ever down Asheboro way , to see what you think, or if that's what you need .
     
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  25. Hedgerow

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    Would have, but we were trying to stay within the confines and intent of the OP...
    And stuff...
    :bananawave:
     
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  26. Eccentric

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    I guess there's a first time for everything....:laughing:
     
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  27. Hedgerow

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    Yes...
    But the 7900 IS a better option...
    And stuff...
    Thank you for reminding me of that...
    :rock2:
     
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  28. roberte

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    slipping , maybe, pacing myself more like it. besides comparing a 460 anything to a 395 isnt fair :sadshake:
     
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  29. Eccentric

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    :facepalm:
     
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  30. WoodChuck'r

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    :anonymous:
     
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  31. Hedgerow

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    Hmmmm.... Good point... Stroked 7900...
    :drinkingcoffee:
     
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  32. mdavlee

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    If the crank will hold together. :couchbeer:
     
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  33. Hedgerow

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    Did the stock ones have that issue? Or just the ones guys raised the compression on?
     
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  34. WoodChuck'r

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    I'd wager that every singe one that has blown up has had the crank "pushed harder" if ya know what I'm saying.......
     
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  35. mdavlee

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    It seems there was some stock ones and then a lot of ported ones that had added compression. I know of 7 now that's done it over the years. The extra mm is nice and adds a touch of power but I'm not sure I'd want to go that way on one. The 7900 crank doesn't seem to do it.
     
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  36. Hedgerow

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    I've heard Dolmar had beefed up the lower end on the 7910, but not sure why exactly.. Some thought maybe as a platform for a larger displacement unit...
    Hmmmmm.....
     
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  37. mdavlee

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    Maybe they will have a 85-90cc on that same bottom end soon?
     
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    Quoted cause it deserved it... Hilarious and so true! :laughing:
     
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