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Which saw do you feel has the best return on investment?

Not just which saw will depreciate the least, but which saw will do the most work,
cutting wood while retaining it's value the most.

What got me thinking about this is there are some beat up little Stihl saws 170 and 180's
I've sold on ebay and seen sold on ebay for 85%-100%+ of original investment.
 

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MS310/390 and Husky 350 They are so easy to sell and good used parts are cheap.


I find the pro model parts to be inflated and the condition of the saw is usually less than desirable.
 

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As far as sheer amount of work- 038 Magnum, 064, 044/MS-440, 046/MS-460. I've seen those saws literally run more than 2,000 hours before needing an overhaul. The 365/371/372 is a real workhorse as well, but the mounts break sooner and the muffler and handlebars don't last as long as the Stihl 70cc class parts. The 020T/MS-200T is another long-lived saw if it isn't dropped out of a tree.

As far rebuilding to sell- MS-660 and 395XP are two of the easiest saws to make a little coin on. There will always be a good market for big saws due to woodworkers/saw-millers. The little saws have almost no profit margin, even when selling as new in the shop because those customers are usually higher maintenance and eat up twice as much of your time.
 

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I was gonna say the 365/372.


I almost never find them going for less than $400 pho on eBay or Craigslist (even when it's someone not in the chainsaw community that's selling the saw). They always seem to cost AT LEAST that much even if they're 10yrs old and in rough rough shape.


I very well could be wrong though. Just seems they tend to hold their value - but then again maybe $400 pho isn't that much compared to what other saws are known to bring in.....
 

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I sold about 9 stock and woods ported 372 this year for $400 a piece, some with bars some PHO. Now rebuilding some of them with cranks, bearings, seals tops etc is cost prohibitive. But if I even come close to breaking even I am happy that it pays for my hobby. :wink:

I always figure used about half the cost of new. Then condition and looks come into play up or down.
 

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I was gonna say the 365/372.


I almost never find them going for less than $400 pho on eBay or Craigslist (even when it's someone not in the chainsaw community that's selling the saw). They always seem to cost AT LEAST that much even if they're 10yrs old and in rough rough shape.


I very well could be wrong though. Just seems they tend to hold their value - but then again maybe $400 pho isn't that much compared to what other saws are known to bring in.....

The 372 was a high-dollar used saw up until a few months ago. Now the 550XP/555/562XP is eating heavily into that market share. People are going for the bling of the modern Auto-Tune saws that are good stock runners.
 

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Oops I was wrong on the above info :p. One was a stock 2171 I sold for $300 PHO and then the guy bought a new 20" b+c from me. :yougo:
 

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One thing I've learned is if you don't cut a pile of wood you'll never get a return on your investment with
a woods ported saw.

In general if I planned on selling the saw, keeping it stock keeps the value better over
a ported saw.

Best return on my invest ever was 6 MS180's owned by a Christmas tree farm, all got straight gassed.

Complete seized saws, gave him 20$ per saw trade in. Sold each one for over 125$ PHO on Ebay, then sold
bars and chains separate for 15-30$ and the stinking saws only retail for 199$
 

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Looking at this another way, that you may have been talking about Cale.

If buying a new saw which ones or brands seem to hold their value for resale. Without rebuilding etc.

I would say certain model of stihls. I always got guys asking me what stihls I have in. Cant keep them on the shelves after rebuilds or trade ins.

Husky would be next and have had a lot of guys see the light when able to test cut with them.
 

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The 372 was a high-dollar used saw up until a few months ago. Now the 550XP/555/562XP is eating heavily into that market share. People are going for the bling of the modern Auto-Tune saws that are good stock runners.

I've noticed that! I've been watching Ebay closely lately looking for parts saw and parts to complete a couple 362-365-372 saws I got. Some runners have brought less than parts saws used to bring just a few months ago. I guess thats part of it though. Probably get even cheaper when Husqvarna releases the new 70cc autotune. Thats good for me cause I always got a spot for a 362-365-372 line of saws :heart:
 

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The 372s seem to be a good saw
I would say that 90% of the loggers
in this area use them. But the Stihls
seem to bring more money on the
bay.
 

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"The power of advertisement"...= (brain washing)
Nothing holds it's value like a Stihl
 

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Around here, a used Farm Boss fetches the highest percentage of original purchase price... I can sell ugly 029's and 290's till the cows come home for between 200 and 250 bucks...
A nice one will fetch over 300 bucks...
:retarded:
 

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Around here, a used Farm Boss fetches the highest percentage of original purchase price... I can sell ugly 029's and 290's till the cows come home for between 200 and 250 bucks...
A nice one will fetch over 300 bucks...
:retarded:


Crazy isnt it. Amazing how many folks own those darn things because of the name on them.
 

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It worked so well, Husky had to get in on the action with it's "Rancher" saws...

I have only had 1 455 come through and about 10 290 this year. Me I really like what the 455 is compared to the 290. I like the build and ease to work on of the 455. :saywhat: :D
 

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A "Fast" race chain is your best return on investment......Oh yeah!
 

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I have only had 1 455 come through and about 10 290 this year. Me I really like what the 455 is compared to the 290. I like the build and ease to work on of the 455. :saywhat: :D

I'd take a Rancher over a 290 any day :D And it's not because of reliability, they both have it nailed in that department. I just think it performs better and yes can be easier to work on. The 290 does have a pretty easy setup for carb cleaning. Fuel line isn't too terrible either. What else do you do to these saws besides throw em away when you're done? ;)
 

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It worked so well, Husky had to get in on the action with it's "Rancher" saws...

"Rancher" and "Farm Boss" both carry a silly amount of clout. People come in and ask for "The Rancher" and don't even know the model number. I'll bet it's the same in the Stihl shops. Amazing bang for the buck in a marketing context. "XP" carries a lot of weight as well. Don't think we could say the same for "Ulticore" though. :angry:
 

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Ive got a couple of those Ulticors ....just waitin for the marketing world to catch up and propaganda them correctly ,and I will be ahead of the rush to own them :wheee:
 

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